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Forum on English/Russian / Delije Journal 2005/2006
October 23, 2007, 09:26:02 PM
Vicotry in 5th game
12 Jun 2006

Red Star finally got through last 5th game agains Zeleznik BC. More than 2.000 Delije came to support our team. While our team was down by 4 points we shook the stands and the court with our support. National finals are against Partizan. Delije HERE WE GO!

Derby no.1
15 Jun 2006

In first game in final playoff against partizan, Red Star lost the game. Even though Delije were not able to buy any tickets for the match somehow more than 500 Delije showed up in Pionir. We supported our team as much as we could and defended our name with pride and honor.

A.C.A.B.
19 Jun 2006

Second game of final round of national championship was stopped in the 3rd quarter after police squad attacked Delije. No words can describe what was happening during the "basketball game". More than 20 supporters were arrested and more than 40 seriously injured (broken bones, fractures, etc.)
As always media said that "Red Star hooligans were responsible for incident". We know the truth and we will fight for our freedom!
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Forum on English/Russian / Delije Journal 2005/2006
October 23, 2007, 09:23:53 PM
Handball Derby
17 Mar 2006

Marvelous victory of our team against neighbours at Banjica SC last night. More than 100 Delije came to support Red Star. After the game players celebrated victory with Delije.

Another victory
22 Mar 2006

Even though it was Tuesday, Delije showed up in huge numbers. More than 70 younger supporters entered late and had to be separated because there was no more room at "visitor's stands". In total about 1000 Delije at the stadium. New song was presented, several red and yellow handflares, and not satisfying game from our team. After the game police showed its brutality again and arrested several Delije for "informative speech".

4:0 Victory at Marakana
27 Mar 2006

More than 3.000 Delije came to support Red Star in their newest victory against FC Future from Montenegro. New song, pyro show, huge banner "Pride of City - Delije Sever", also small banner of Spartak Moscow friends were just few details from this game. Also, each supporter received a flyer with the instrucions for next coming match - a derby. If the banners and flags are not going to be allowed at partisan stadium, Delije will exit the stands and leave the famous derby to police and media to "enjoy" the match and mafia to continue its "hard work" in domestic football.


0:0 at the Derby
02 Apr 2006

More than 5.000 Delije came to support our team in a Derby that used to be the most important match in the season. Not any more. Just a few individuals in domain of Serbian football are demonstrating their power and criminal activity from one week to another. Management of partisan fc, police, government, media and many others were against Delije and organized support yesterday - but at the end WE came out as winners. Delije left the north stands of partisan stadium at the half time because repression that is going on for several years is just getting stronger. We had to let people and media know how does it feel when there are nobody to support our team - which by the way we LIVE for. Our team had positive 0:0 which will probably lead to the new trophy and CL qualification games. As for Delije, each match we are growing as a strong unit and we will fight for something that we truly believe in and something we LIVE FOR.

A step closer to a title
10 Apr 2006

Another victory of Red Star against Smederevo FC of 2:0. Delije showed up in good numbers as always this season. We had several banners addressed to media and their protection of mafia in Serbian football.

Police brutality in Nis
12 Apr 2006

More than 500 Delije arrived at train station early in the morning in order to go to Nis, a semifinal cup game against Radnicki FC. Also there were several buses and cars from Belgrade and other major cities in Serbia. Delije arrived in Nis few hours before the game and went toward the stadium. At the game, one of our best mobs "Nislije" from Nis celebrated 20 years of the group. After the half time, several Delije got out of the stadium trying to find something to eat and drink. And then police steps up and tries to make a big deal of having a beer in café. Delije told them to xxxx off but they started beating people. More Delije got out of the stadium but there was at least three times more police than supporters. The police violence continued all the way to train station and inside the train. Instead of traveling for 5 hours, Delije arrived in Belgrade at 8 o'clock in the morning after 10 hours of traveling. Few top boys got arrested in Nis

CHAMPIONS!!
24 Apr 2006

Beautiful day on Marakana stadium. More than 6.000 Delije came to celebrate another trophy in Serbian championship against FC OFK Belgrade. Crazy North truly showed its face on nice saturday afternoon. The trance on North stand lasted more than 120minutes. Handflares, flares, smokes, songs, victory.. A night we all going to remember for ever.

Another victory in Zemun
01 May 2006

Red Star confirmed the fact against FC Zemun on saturday that championship title goes to Marakana with good reason. More than 700 Delije arrived in Zemun to support our team. Delije prepared 2 banners as a response to Taurunum Boys (supporters of Zemun) choreography. Also we had more than 50 smoke grenades in different colors, 10 handflares and 2 drums.

Delije in Zeleznik
06 Jun 2006

More than 200 Delije managed to enter the BC Zeleznik basketball arena and about 1.000 couldn't enter the building. Since all the tickes were sold before game even started, Delije came in second half of the game. Red Star won and next game is going to be held on Wednesday and hopefully we will meet our biggest enemies partizan in the final round of national championship.

Defeat in Zeleznik
08 Jun 2006

Red Star lost 4th game against Zeleznik last night and has to go into 5th game which is going to decide the second finalist in national championship (against partizan). More than 300 Delije came in Zeleznik town but only 180 managed to enter the place (tickets were 1.000 din. aprox. 12euros). Very strong and loud support from our KOP. Our team lost with almost 30 points but we still sang as stronger as we could. Next game on saturday night. We are ready, but the players?
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Forum on English/Russian / Delije Journal 2005/2006
October 23, 2007, 09:19:26 PM
Delije gave blood
04 Feb 2006

On Thursday, February 2nd, Delije organized a blood donation for the people that desperately need it, especially after the huge train accident in Montenegro republic. More than 100 people showed up for donating the blood, but only 40 of them was accepted. This is just one of many humanitarian aids that Delije are going to organize this year. There are many people in Kosovo and Methoija that need our help!!! Be thinking about that!!!

New season - new victory!
19 Feb 2006

After yesterday's match against Vozdovac FC, new season has begun for Delije too. Because of the fact that the stadium was too small for all of us and the high price of the tickets, more than 200 Delije couldn't enter the stadium (31 arrested). After quick lead after only one minute of the match Delije celebrated with a couple of handflares. Home supporters Invalidi were in good numbers too (400). As for us, the break between two seasons left mark on our atmosphere when singing was about. Also, Delije were placed almost around the whole stadium so we couldn't get synchronized.

Victory in Derby
19 Feb 2006

After the football match we all went to basketball Derby against partizan bc. Our stands were full, especially because police didn't allow us to use the smaller stand behind the hoops. Of course our enemies across were allowed to do that even though they had enough space on their wider stands. After couple of songs they had a "quiet time" because of death of their member. During that time period we didn't stop with our support. As soon as third quarter started they started singing too, so the "war" begun. As the match was ending in our favor they were getting quieter. The hit song on our stands was "come on red star, come on red star, fu*k gravediggers" and "You are Red Star's cetnik, Milane", "You are going to fu*k all partisans Milane" - a parody for one of our players that used to play for partisan.

Trophy!
20 Feb 2006

In final basketball game against Hemofarm BC, Red Star easily won the game and celebrated first trophy this year, as the players said. More than 1000 Delije came to support our team and remind the president of Hemofarm club of his immoral act 2 years ago when police brutally started beating Delije at the match in Vrsac, where Hemofarm plays its games. At the end of the game players entered our stands and sang with us.

First game at Marakana
26 Feb 2006

More than 3000 supporters came to the first match in new season against Borac Cacak FC. At the begining of the second half, the atmosphere at the North Stand reminded of brasilian carneval. Handflares, smoke grenades, huge flags, banners, and baloons were just a part of the program yesterday. Delije proved that support for the Red Star will be the best ever this season.

Victory in a village
06 Mar 2006

After 0:3 win of our team, we are more than sure that the trophy is going to Marakan stadium this year. The village where the "stadium" is placed is about 2 hours driving north from Belgrade. Very good numbers of Delije from Belgrade, Novi Sad, Vojvodina and of course the rest of the Serbia. There were few memebers of Gate 7 and Fratria with us at the stands. Couple of smoke grenades, handflares, good-old Serbian alcohol rakija, and positive atmoshpere both on the way there and back.

Belgrade's Hools Derby
13 Mar 2006

Matches between Red Star and Rad FC were always considered as one of the most interesting hool derbies. After almost two years of abstenece, both mobs (Delije and united force) had finally a chance to "see each other". Delije came in fantastic numbers (more than 5.000) and opposite side in standard 300. This game was also meant for Delije to celebrate 61st birthday of our club. Flares, drums, loud singing and positive score against old rival on the field made Delije feel even more satisfied.

Ultras.gr magazine # 1
15 Mar 2006

Ultras.gr has printed out first issue of their new magazine. Since the brotherhood between the Ultras.gr and Delije-Caffe has been made long time ago, it was decided that the space for Delije is left in every issue. The presentation of Delije included brief overview of the last half-season with a few of the best pictures from our gallery. We thank our Brothers and invite them to send us their material in order to make their presentation or even Ultras.gr corner.
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Forum on English/Russian / Delije Journal 2005/2006
October 23, 2007, 09:15:19 PM
3000 Supporters at practice tonight
02 Nov 2005

Over 3000 hard core supporters came tonight at our team's practice 24 hours before the first game starts in UEFA Cup against Basel. Flares, flags, new songs, good atmosphere and everything is ready for win tomorrow night. We will support our team from pubs all over the Belgrade and after that celebrate till morning. Few pictures can be seen at our official FC Red Star website. Casuals from Basel probably will not show up. Europe - HERE WE GO!!!!

Packed north stand at "away" game
09 Nov 2005

More than 3.000 supporters from Belgrade and major cities in Serbia came to small Belgrade's derby between OFK Belgrade and Red Star. Our north stand was full. We had standard show going on. Handflares, smoke, "herewego" and good support for our team that won by 1:0. Step by step we are getting to some serious numbers and Delije are truly growing into very good European firm. Time will show anyway. 10 pictures in gallery and video file here. Enjoy!

Singidunum-Taurunum
20 Nov 2005



Small Belgrade's derby between Red Star and Zemun was also the last match before 3rd round of UEFA League where our boys are traveling to Tromso. Besides cold winter day the atmosphere on North stands were on top level. Choreography, smoke grenades, flares, flags, new songs - everything was at our level. We wished our players good luck and hopefully few of us will help them make a win at the north pole!!!

Belgrade's triumph over Rome
02 Dec 2005



Forza Stella Rossa - like in good old days in Bari... This time AS Roma and their "ultras"  had to share a tear on our stadium and drink some nice Serbian beer. Tonight was OUR night. Both our boys on the pitch and boys on our CRAZY NORTH stand. They both showed a game of PRIDE. Choreography at the beginning was representing Delije (the 1989 year founded) hidden in army colors and on the main banner it was said: North Army is always with you!! Perfect singing in first half of the game, in second basically whole stadium was in trance after 2nd and 3rd goal.

Here we go
04 Dec 2005

After great performance against Roma, today was just a little bit better. Why? Because there were 3000 souls in the kop singing as ONE, having a laugh and a good time at the game. Another victory, both on the field and on the stands. Flares, smoke grenades, nice weather, and Belgrade's beautiful girls dressed in red and white colors. Another home game and then Europe trip again.

Delije in France
17 Dec 2005


We started our trip round 3 pm from Belgrade in 2 buses. The atmosphere in the bus was crazy from the very begging. We had all substances we needed for this long trip to France. While traveling trough Hungary we didn't stop at all, but as soon as we arrived in Austria we....
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Forum on English/Russian / Delije Journal 2005/2006
October 23, 2007, 09:09:33 PM
Good luck in Portugal
25 Sep 2005



Another home game against Obilic and more than 1300 supporters at north stand. This was our last game before trip to portugal where our team is going to try to get into UEFA league. Pyro show, new song and positive atmosphere before 2 days long drive to braga.
Pictures and new song from tonight.

Delije in Montenegro
04 Oct 2005

Game against Fc Future was on sunday and since our top firm did not come back from Portugal yet the rest of our main and younger boys went on a 10hours long trip to capital of Montenegro. In the downtown our boys (25) met one of the Varvari mob (70) and they did little marathon race on their ground. At the stadium about 600 of Delije from all over the Serbia and Montenegro. Decent support, few handflares and a good time.


Report from Braga
14 Oct 2005



As you all know from Belgrade went 2 buses. We from Pancevo gathered around 22hours in one caffe in Pancevo and started with a beer. Of course we prepared with alcohol as everybody else. Buses started just around 3 am. Soon a problem with first bus occurred where....

Unconquerable Castle
15 Oct 2005

Same story in 21st millennium. We won the derby 2:0!!! Our North Terrace was full as usual for big matches like this. Our opponents didn't showed up, we didn't care. We were there to support our team and we did. All our older and younger mobs showed up in full numbers, and also our Orthodox Brothers Gate 7 from Athens (main mob had to go back because of the fog on our airport). Also main faces from Spartak Moscow (friends with our Ultra Boys) showed up and probably the friendship will grow in something more.

Pics: http://www.delije-caffe.net/galerija/index.php?g=2005-2006/cz_partizan

Winners
26 Oct 2005

We played in the city 60km south of Belgrade. There was about 1000-1200 supporters at our stand. Huge improvement in strong and continuously singing. Very good atmosphere among us because it looks like we are the winners of championship this year. More than 30 handsmoke grenades red and white and constantly green and red handflares all around. Pictures are in the gallery


4000 hearts for good luck
30 Oct 2005

Around 4000 supporters on the north terrace on the warm saturday afternoon. Lots of old faces showed up, youngers too, so the support was never better at this "small" game. Second half started with choreography and parole ' Let Europe fear us again' with decent amount of flares and smoke grenades. 20min. after the game was over we did not stop singing and players got back on the field and sang with us for good luck on thursday. You can see pictures here, also video clip and audio from 115 min.
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Forum on English/Russian / Delije Journal 2005/2006
October 23, 2007, 09:04:30 PM
Delije in Zapresic
Report from "croatian picnic"

07 Sep 2005


As you all know we started our way to Zapresic in thursday morning with 4 double deckers (mob about 300 strong) from our stadium Marakana. With our "friends in blue" which where taking picture of us and getting our names down in their notes we finally headed our way to croatia. Traveling to our border went in good atmosphere. And then some serious boring was coming on. About 12pm we arrived on their border where police starts taking man by man out of bus and searching and checking every single one of us and of course our documents. About 10 of us where stopped from crossing their border because they had higher level of alcohol in their blood and some just did not have a game ticket. After 2 hours getting seriously bored, we finally get going on. Some police officer tried to explain certain rules we needed to follow but that was just a laugh. The way to the game was boring, nothing happened, and it was raining all the time. Just few miles before the Zagreb few old-bill came into each of our buses to prevent any possible trouble that might occur (mostly preventing us getting out of the buses).
They took us around some woods and villages just because they did not wanted us to get on the time. And somewhere along those woods we were "attacked" for the first time. The attack was more funny than serious because some peasants lunched a rocket and missed and others were throwing handflares and rocks but it was a laugh again. On our way we heard that we were winning 1:0 already so we got in much better mood and couldn't wait to get there. We finally arrived there almost at half time and, bus by bus, people were getting out slowly and we were inside the "stadium". From the side where their "fans" were sitting we could hear only swears regarding serbs. Also police was ready to interfere anytime and we could see they could not stand looking at us. After we had one handflare on and few nationalistic songs it almost went off with police. Just before the very end of the match someone remembered famous pop croatin song "It's so good to see you again, to put my hand over your shoulders..." and that was the hit song till the end of the game. I will remember the look on their faces, pissed off but couldn't do a thing. On the way back it was much more interesting, the peasants were much better organized and they attacked us few times, but not successfully. They managed to break one glass and just few more to crack. Even one rocket hit us but no one was hurt. On our demand from bus driver to stop and open the doors police intervened. We got to our border around 1am and after few hours of waiting for police bullshit the finally let us in Serbia around 3. I would also like to mention that we haven't had any water for 10 hours but we survived. Around 7 am
we got back in front of our ground and went home.
For the most of us this was the first trip to Zagreb, but personally I expected more from the locals to do but I admit that their police was ready for us.
Till the next time in their "beautiful land"

Warming up for Europe
13 Sep 2005

Last night was the fresh start for out top boys. They made serious plan for moving forward with organising big mathches like this. All gypses that were selling fake and ugly clothes and scarfes were disabled to sell anything. Each fan got a paper where it was explaind how and what they should do before and durnig the game at the north stand. They were told that this was a place were people will support their team for 90 minutes and not passivly watch a game.

All main mobs were concretated in 2 middle sectors and led much better cheer than last time. More then 40 handflares during the game, few smoke grenades, supporters dressed "properly" and solid power that came out of the crazy north. After the game our top boys were satisfied with our perform tonight and said that we will become better and better each time at games big as this one.

The problem persist for last ten or more years because at 90% of our games most of the fans stay home and the boys that are there every game already proved how good they are and what is our place in Euro scale. We have to work on those fans that don't come that often and don't know all the rules they need to obey. But as time pass by we will be better and better and if our team wins in a two weeks Europe will see our top boys in the best light.

Solid show tonight..

16 Sep 2005


More than 12 000 fans at North Stand and about 3-4000 supporters and all main and younger mobs were present tonight. At the beging of the game our top boys - HEROES made huge banner over the central part of the north stand with red and white colors in the background...

After all these years...
19 Sep 2005

After few years of break, yesterday old rivals were back in the game again. "Small Belgrade's Derby" as it is called for our and their mob was always more than derby. It was a matter of prestige, being best in the city, top firm. Yesterday only our firm showed up and had a blast at their ground, at their end of city...

Pics:http://www.delije-caffe.net/galerija/index.php?g=2005-2006/rad_cz

Montenegro on work day
22 Sep 2005

2 buses and few cars left on tuesday night from Belgrade on trip to Montenegro. Supporters from Uzice and Nis also came. Decent number of montengrian fans also. There was about 300- 400 of us on our terrace. Solid perform, with about 10 handflares, and new song was presented. Another 12hour drive back home.
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Forum on English/Russian / Delije Journal 2007/2008
October 22, 2007, 12:43:04 AM
21.10.2007
Ofk Belgrade-Red Star


More than 2,000 Delije arrived to support our team at the small Belgrade's derby betwen these two clubs. However, police didn't allow us to take our banners and flags inside the stands. After 15 minutes of constant protest regarding new law aimed mostly to the chief of police in Serbian government Dragan Jocic, Delije reminded him of his criminal past toghether with supporters of Ofk Belgrade - Blue Union- lthat left the stadium. Delije came out few minutes after them leaving the stands empty. The new law that was voted for in Serbian parliament allows the banners and support material but our police obviously intended to make incidents with Delije on purpose, so they can continue with arrests and terror of our supporters.
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Forum on English/Russian / Delije Journal 2007/2008
October 08, 2007, 02:29:43 AM
7.10.2007
Red Star-Banat

A good number of Delije in the north terrace tonight. Since there were only 3 gates opened, people were late for 15-20 minutes to enter the stadium. Many flares, big flags, good support throughout the whole 90 minutes and another victory at the end of match was just a small "thank you" from our players. A long banner was shown at the end of the game saying: "It (Red Star team/machine  :D ) started working and it doesn't want to stop" with huge RedWhite tank banner above us. Certanly, a night to remember.

Photos are here http://www.delije-caffe.net/galerija/index.php?g=2007-2008/cz_banat

Video on this link http://www.delije-caffe.co.yu/video/2007/banat.avi
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WE STAND TOGETHER!

RED&WHITE ORTHODOX BROTHERS!

;pivo
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RSF водимо те на пиво за ову одлуку  :D



шала ла ла ла ла  :D



:sampion
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Ево и ја у духу и фера и плеја помажем екипи Аца Радовић да прикупи доказе за намештање турнира..

елем, као што сви већ добро знате прошле године дотична екипа је била жребом одређена да игра са победницима овогодишњег турнира.. након жребања учесника ''силом прилика'' су се у истој групи поново нашли момци из АР и ПУ.. Сеф Блатер није присуствовао церемонији жребања тако да је победник већ био решен и пре почетка турнира..

Да не буде да само износимо доказе против победничке екипе износимо и њихове доказе да су чланови екипе Аца Радовић вече пре почетка турнира договорили о закулисним радњама са припадницама лепшег пола који су држали момке из екипе ПУ будним, пијаним и под разним опијатима све до неких 5, 6 ујутру.. али ни то их није поколебало да издрже све ''притиске'' и подметачине  :D

Све је раскринкано!



This time, next year...  :D

.. свуда грми около, наша песма поново... :sampion
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Све је намештено  :D

:sampion


Поздрав свима и хвала на добром фудбалу..


This time, next year... :D
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Последње гостовање у овој сезони се завршило минималној победи у српској престоници пива Апатину. Из Београда се кренуло возом, комбијем и колима, како ко. Из Шапца је такође дошло доста људи али и из осталих градова по мало.

На текму се улазило све до неког 30тог минута не због гужве већ очекивања да ће се ући без плаћања улаза. Део трибине где смо ми били је био сасвим попуњен, да не кажем са благом гужвом. Оно што ће остати запамћено са овог гостовања јесте сигурно веома добро и сложно навијање свих 90 минута. Први пут сам видео да није било забушавања на трибини и да сви навијачи који су дошли СВИ СУ НАВИЈАЛИ. Веома леп призор. Од песама су се форсирале ствари са новог и старог цд-а (које се у задњих неколико утакмица много боље чују него неке наше старе обраде). Упалили смо и две бакље током овде веома досадне утакмице.

Након утакмице чека нас ненормално много полиције у пуној опреми али све је прошло без инцидената. Екипа из Сомбора нас је угостила након утакмице и учинила ово гостовање више интересантним.
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Добра вест се далеко чује, а лоша још даље.. Амери ће препознати ову тв компанију  :D

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2688668
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Убедљиво најквалитетнији снимак на нету!
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Olympiakos - Gate 7 & Spartak Moscow / Basketball
December 02, 2006, 04:45:41 PM
ολύμπια -Ολυμπιακός 76-84, 19/11/2006


;pivo
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Пивница / KAD SE SRBI SLOZE
November 27, 2006, 09:09:37 PM
????? 400 ???? ???????? ?? ????? ????????..

;pivo

http://www.srbizasrbe.org
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Времеплов / ORGANIZOVANO NAVIJANjE
November 09, 2006, 07:03:39 PM
Да не буде забуне интервју је рађен 98 или 99
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Времеплов / ORGANIZOVANO NAVIJANjE
November 09, 2006, 06:56:47 PM
Internet intervju - naši i vaši gosti

Tima i Šavija

Bili
#214   
Dragi Zorane,
ja sam zabrinuti navijač naše Zvezde. Zabrinut sam jer u svojim redovima, vi Delije, imate kriminalce i hohštaplere. Tu pre svega mislim na Branislava Stojanovića, poznatijeg kao Bane Bumbar, kabadahiju sa Ceraka, koji već godinama unazad teroriše srpski narod i nemilosrdno se obračunava sa svakim ko mu se usprotivi. Mali je ovo prostor za opisivanje svih zločina koje je BTS učini. Kako se njemu može stati na put?

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
:))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Vlada Petrović #188   
ZAŠTO NEMA VISE BAKLJI NA SEVERU??
KAD SMO POSLEDNJI PUT DOBILI GRBARE U TUČI (JA SE NEŠTO NE SEĆAM)???
KAD ĆEMO POKAZATI GROBARIMA VEĆ JEDNOM VAN STADIONA KO SMO I ŠTA SMO??????

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
Nije tačno da ih nema. Smatrali smo u jednom trenutku da je fazon sa bakljama provaljen, pa smo se okrenuli ka pravljenju složenih koreografija. Mada baklji i danas ima i biće ih na sledećim utakmicama.
Pa izgleda da ti nisi bio kad su bile poslednje tuče. Poslednji put smo ih dobili na prošlom derbiju.

Uroš   
Da li spremate nešto u vezi odlaska Perice Ognjenovića ? Ako sada potpiše sigurno nece igrati oproštajnu utakmicu pa me interesuje da li ste smislili nešto da mu se zahvalimo za sve što je učinio ?

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
Zbog čega da mu se zahvalimo?

Slobodan Petrov   
Zašto na Zvezdinim utakmicama u Pioniru (košarka) nema bakljade i zašto ne dolaze navijači (oni naj vatreniji)??

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
Zna se da zvezdini navijači u Pionir dosada nisu mogli da unesu ni papirnu čašu a kamoli baklje. Radi se i na tom pitanju tako da se mogu očekivati baklje na sledećim utakmicama u evroligi. Videćeš, uostalom. Mi se inače trudimo da pratimo sve tekme, ali nije to lako postići ... pa i mi smo ljudska bića

Marko   
da li znate išta o nedavnom otimanju transparenta BANJALUKA (zvezda je naša vera)  od strane Grobara i imate li pojma šta je sa njim......

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
Da, on je uzet posle zadnje utakmice dvojici momaka koji su bili nepažljivi, ali ne možemo ih kriviti za to. Moramo ubuduće bolje da pazimo

Miloš Z. Smiljanić   
-ZAŠTO VISE NE ZAVODITE RED NA DERBIJIMA, KADA ONI PREMA ZAPADU I PREMA ISTOKU UOPšTE NE PEVAJU ?
-ŠTA CE BITI NA SLEDEĆEM DERBIJU NA SEVERU ?
-DA LI JE ISTINA ONO STO KAZE ONAJ SELJAK TONI MONTANO DA BIVŠE ZVEZDINE VODzE NAVIJAJU ZA obilic ?
-ŠTO SE NE NOSI TRANSPARENT FONTANA NA UTAKMICE?

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
Pokušali smo, ali ne može se tek tako, batinama, zavoditi red. Nekad ljudima treba i više od cisterne piva ne bi li pevali. Pravi Delija peva i kad je rezultat očajan. Naravno, ne smeš zaboraviti da najpre rezultat motiviše ljude da pevaju, treba samo malo da se strpimo - svanuće i našoj Zvezdi.
Što se tiče koreografije na sledećem derbiju - dođi pa ćeš da vidiš.
A Tony Montano i njegove izjave? Ma, Tony je seljak, slobodno to napišite. Nije uopšte tačno da BILO KO od vođa sa Severa sada navija za Obilić.
Transparent FONTANA se ne nosi, jer se ta grupa raspala. Momci sa fontane dolaze na tekme, ali ne kao i ranije u velikom broju, pa se ta navijačka grupa raspala te nema potrebe za transparentom grupe koja ne postoji.

Miodrag   
DA LI JE ZASTAVA IZ BARIJA U ŽIVOTU I AKO JESTE, DA LI JE ISTINA DA ĆE PONOVO UGLEDATI SVETLOST DANA NA UTAKMICI U KVALIFIKACIJAMA ZA EP PROTIV HRVATA?

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
Zastava iz Barija nažalost nije u životu, istrulila je. Zadnji put je nošena na utakmici Zvezda - Hajduk 1 :0 .

Andreja   
DA LI SE SPREMA NEKI SPEKTAKL ZA TEKMU SA USTAŠAMA, ILI ĆE BITI KAO I DOSAD BEZ NAVIJANJA KAD YUGA IGRA.
STA MISLITE O DOLASKU DIVCA U ZVEZDU , I KAKO CETE SE ODNOSITI SA NJIM S OBZIROM DA JE BIVSI GROBAR??

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
Ne postoji jos zvaničan stav Delija na tu temu, ali se uveliko priča o tome. Nas ne zanima duel reprezentacija Hrvatske i Jugoslavije. Iskreno, najverovatnije ćemo biti tamo, ali zna se naše: bodrenje Srbije i vređanje Hrvata. Ukratko rečeno - Zvezda, Srbija, nikad Jugoslavija.
Što se Divca tiče - i tu su mišljenja podeljena, ali smatramo da on u duši nikad nije bio Grobar, tj da je samo sticajem okolnosti igrao u Partizanu. Usvakom slučaju predstavljaće veliko pojačanje Zvezdi i zbog toga ga pozdravljamo.

Vlada Niš   
Šta planirate što se tiče dovođenja publike na stadion? Mislim na prvenstvene utakmice izuzev derbija.

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
Kao sto smo rekli, rezultat je taj koji publiku vraća na stadione, mi tu ne možemo ništa iako naš marketing radi odlično. To pitanje je za ljude iz uprave. Treba imati u vidu i kvalitet naše lige - koja se ne može meriti ni po kvalitetu ni po atraktivnosti protivnika i gostovanja sa starom ligom.

Stajke   
Da li će se delije vratiti da navijanju za zvezdu kao prije rata u velikom broju

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
Hoće, samo da nam opet krene. Ponavlja se ovo pitanje, a ponavlja se i nas odgovor. Rezultat dovodi masu ljudi na stadion, a kop Delija je uvek na Severu i peva.

Nikola  Paunković   
Interesuje me kako Zvezda planira da napravi jak tim kada stalno prodaju najbolje igrace.

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
Delije nemaju ništa s tim, pitanje postavi upravi.

Faki   
-Zasto se navijači iz Beograda odvajaju od ostalih grupa na gostovanjima, kao oni "vole" Zvezdu vise od nas iz unutrasnjosti? -Kako to da nama grobari "dignu" tri vodeća transparenta, a mi ih izazivamo nek probaju "na ruke", i ko opet ode praznih ruku, MI!!! Kada smo im mi poslednji put uzeli vodeci transparent!!???
-I kako to da smo mi vodeca navijacka grupa u Evropi, a medjusobno se"cepamo"?
-Zasto ne pokrenete akciju osnivanja FAN klubova po svim vecim gradovima Srbije, da se ne plasite, slucajno, da cemo vas brojno nadmasiti na Severu?
-I poslednje zasto je prva grupa u KG otisla pre kraja tekme tako da
niko nije krenuo na pandure?

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
Delije iz Beograda se ne odvajaju od ostalih grupa, to mogu da potpišem. Naprotiv, saradnja sa Delijama iz unutrašnjosti postoji.
Transparenti... moramo da priznamo da je našom nepažnjom došlo do gubljenja tih transparenata, ali se to više nikad neće ponoviti. Takodje, moraju svi da znaju: Delije ni jedan transparent nisu izgubile na ruke, u tuči - već su oni ukradeni, a sa druge strane znaju i ti Grobari vrlo dobro da ni jedan njihov transparent nije ukraden, već su svi oteti! Znaju komšije pod kojom presijom oni idu na stadion, pa zato svoje zastave i transparente kao deca kriju na stadionu umesto da ih nose kako se oni nose na tekme. U ostalom pitajte ih kako je to izgledalo kada smo im upali u prostorije Agencije na stadionu JNA - oni su svi brže bolje pobegli, a mi nismo prstom takli nijednu stvar - a mogli smo sve da im pokupimo.
Što se tice osnivanja fan-klubova iz unutrasnjosti - neki od njih vec postoje, a ako ljudi žele da ih pokrenu onda oni moraju da učine prvi korak. Posle toga, imaće svu mogucu podršku nas iz Beograda i drage volje ćemo im pružiti sve što treba, doći na promociju i slično.
Ja (Šavija) sam krenuo opet na tribinu kod Crvenih Djavola, međutim za nama je krenula i veća grupa navijača. Kako smo izašli žandari su nas pokupili. Čuo sam da je doslo do batinjanja na tribinama, ali o tome malo znam. Dakle - prva ekipa je krenula ka navijačima iz Kragujevca ali se murija isprečila i to je to.

Knindža   
1. Zašto se više ne pjevaju pjesme iz Barija: (čija je ono zvezda....)
2. Da li je istina da je zabranjen natpis DELIJE-KNIN na SEVERU, ako jeste dali znate razlog

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
1. Ta pesma nikada nije pevana na Severu.
2. Nije istina da je zabranjen taj transparent na severu. Takođe, koliko znamo Delije Knin viđe ne dolaze organizovano na utakmice, već pojedinačno.

Edin Perezić #202   
Samo sam hteo da znam koja ce vam tuča do sad najbolje ostati u sećanju? I zašto?

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
Tima : U Drezdenu 1991. sa nemačkom policijom
Šavija : Sa United Forsima, ova poslednja. Bilo je bas žestoko.

Dušan Ivanović   
Zašto na severu nema bubnjeva?

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
Da, trenutno nema bubnjeva na severu mada smo na poslednjim sastancima odlučili da kupimo nove bubnjeve i popravimo stare. Imamo dosta starih probušenih bubnjeva.

Filip   
Zašto na severu odavno nije bilo bakljade?

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
Rekli smo već, mislili smo da je taj fazon provaljen i da se treba posvetiti složenijim koreografijama. Ne brini, baklji je bilo i biće ih vec na proleće.

Saša Pejičić   
Da li se sećate Grobara koji su ušli medju vas u Zrenjaninu u leto 1992 i ostali živi.

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
Tima: Bio sam na toj tekmi, ali se tog detalja ne sećam.

Faki -  Kraljevo   
Zašto su ZVEZDINI fudbaleri nezainteresovani za igru i zašto kada dođu u Zvezdu  zaborave ili uopšte nemaju volju da igraju ?

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
Igračima Zvezde je potreban autoritet. Kada toga bude bilo biće i bolje igre.
Miša #0002   Koje igrače biste izdvojili kao primer koji Delije izdvajaju.   
Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   Među fudbalerima su to bez sumnje bili braća Đorović, koji su imali pravi osećaj za odgovornost koju nosi Zvezdin dres. Među košarkašima još uvek nema takvog, mada je nama nekako najdraži Zlatko Bolić.   

Zoran Jovanović   
kako si čačkao crvene djavole pevajuci "Zvezda Srbija, Nikad Jugoslavija"!!!

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
Otišao sam na tribinu Crvenih Djavola sa još 3 ortaka i jednom devojkom (Šavija) i počeo da ih provociram. Posle pevanja "Zvezda, Srbija - nikad Jugoslavija!" okliznuo sam se i pao na stepenicama a onda sam dobio udarac u bubreg. Kada sam se pridigao i krenuo da uzvratim intervenisala je milicija i izvela nas sa tribine. To je zaista bilo sve.

Joe   
1.Posebno me zanima vase misljenje o tučama na tribinama.
2.Kako po vasem misljenju treba vratiti navijače? Navijače koji ce stalno dolaziti a ne samo za Derbi i na evropske utakmice
3.Kakva je vasa saradnja sa internet fan klubom? Da li će te nešto uraditi u vezi reklama ovog sajta i samih delija? Kakvi su vasi odnosi sa klubom?
4.Da li ste čuli novu pesmu za grobare i kako vam se svidja?

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
Tuče su uglavnom prouzrokvane alkoholom, klinačkim dokazivanjem i velikim emotivnim nabojem. Trudimo se da toga bude sve manje, ali neki momci umesto da to srede napolju, van stadiona - urade to na brzinu, usred severa. Pa ipak, biti navijač ne znači samo sedeti i gledati tekmu, zar ne? Šalu na stranu, trudimo se da toga ne bude.
Na pitanje o vraćanju publike na stadion smo već odgovorili.
Saradnja sa Internet Fan Klubom - za nas je to još uvek nova stvar. Vidimo da dobro radite i mođemo samo da to pozdravimo. I ovi intervjui su vid saradnje - a vidite da radimo i rezervaciju karata za članove preko Interneta.
Pesma sa Severa nam se sviđa, narošito njena poruka.

Branko Bukvić #283   
1.Zivo me interesuje na sta ce liciti nas sever na sledecem
derbiju ,kad smo ostali bez gotovo svih iole poznatijh zastava(stare ULTRAS,koju nikad necu prezaliti,ULTRA BOYS,od skora i HEROES...).Da li se planira neka akcija po tom pitanju.
2.Da li bi javni bojkot na nekoj od predstojecih prvenstvenih utakmica mogao imati pozitivnog uticaja na kosarkase,kao i na upravu

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
Akcije se planiraju svakodnevno, veruj mi. Ali moraš da znaš da nijedna vodeća zastava nije oteta, niti će se to desiti. Problem je u velikom broju nepošteno pokradenih zastava. Transparenti koji su pokradeni (pokradeni sa stadiona,a ne oteti) su nam vraćeni, i to veoma brzo.
Ne razmišljamo još o bojkotu, sačekajmo da malo odmakne prolećni deo sezone, a onda je moguće svašta.

Vuk Vujović   
Šta ce biti sa SEVEROM na utakmici Yugoslavija - Hrvatska?

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
Već smo rekli. Ne postoji jos zvaničan stav Delija na tu temu, ali se uveliko priča o tome. Nas ne zanima duel reprezentacija Hrvatske i Jugoslavije. Iskreno, najverovatnije ćemo biti tamo, ali zna se naše: bodrenje Srbije i vređanje Hrvata.

Marko Martinović   
Čuo sam mnogo prica (sa razlicitim verzijama) u vezi "bliskog" susreta vodje navijaca hajduka (torcide), parangala, i nas Delija i zanima me koja je istinita (tacna) verzija?

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
Nije tačna verzija i to nije imalo veze sa nama.

MM delija   
Koje i čije jos navijace cenite (domace ili strane)?

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
Cenimo Grke kao huligane i Žabare kao majstore organizovanog navijanja. Od domaćih ... cenimo United Force, mada ne mogu da se porede sa nama.

Dušan Đurašković #182,183   
Postavio bih vam jedno pitanje koje buni sve Delije : Da li se Arkan stvarno prodao?A ako jeste zbog cega je zabranjeno da ga prozivamo za vreme tekme( da li uopste postoji
opravdanje za ono sto nam je uradio-prodao nas?)?

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
To ćeš morati da pitaš njega. (smeh)
Ali moras nesto ozbiljno da shvatiš - znaš u kakvoj situaciji živimo i šta sve čoveku može da se desi... Konačno, ni Bjekovića ne prozivamo lično na Severu, a ta logika može da se primeni i na Arkana i njegovu suprugu

Milan Jagnjić   
ZASTO SE NA ZVEZDINOM SEVERU NECUJE REFREN OD PESME ZDRAVKA COLICA "CIJA JE ONO ZVEZDA"KOJA JE POSLE NEZABORAVNOG TRENUTKA U BARIJU BILA HIT U NASOJ
ZEMLJI,NARAVNO UZ KOREOGRAFIJU SALOVA.

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
U Bariju su se pevale pesme Zvezdinog severa koje se i sada pevaju ali ta pesma nikada nije bila pesma severa i nije se pevala nikada na utakmicama.

Golubovć Nevena #273   
Prvo: Da li ce tuce na SEVERU prestati, da li ce DELIJE vec jednom nauciti, kako treba navijati i davati podrsku najboljem klubu na Svetu?
Drugo: Da li ce, u bliskoj buducnosti, biti obezbedjen autobus za ,nas, devojke, jer mislimda ima dosta devojaka koje stvarno vole C. Zvezdu, i koje je prate i u dobru i u zlu.

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
Tuče su jedan od problema koje je teško rešiti jer ima raznih povoda za sukobe koji su često i lične prirode.
Čim se devojke skupe za jedan autobus on će im istovremeno biti obezbedjen.

Marko #179   
sto mi navijamo najbolje na svetu kad nam se klub,narocito fudbalski ne oduzava,mislim naravno na sporskom planu,jer znam da navijaci zvezde imaju najbolje odnose sa upravom,ali cemu to kad grobarska stoka osvoji sve od 91-ve!

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
Ničija ne gori do zore. Svanuće i Zvezdi, ne brini se. Sa druge strane - ponosni smo na činjenicu što se nismo prodali nijednoj političkoj patiji i što smo sačuvali zdravo jezgro Zvezde. Doći će trenutak kada će nam se takav stav veoma isplatiti. A poređenja radi - pogledaj samo ko sve stoji iza Partizana. Neka hvala.

Srđan Jovanović   
Želeo bih da postavim pitanje kada ce vodje uci u odbor i kada ce se vec jednom navijaci pitati za nesto

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
Delije su ove godine dobile jedno mesto u upravnom odboru kluba i taj član ce biti izabran izmedju vodja delija. To ce biti neki iz starije generacija.

Nenad Negovanović #246   
Ko izmislja pesme, i na koje italijanske navijace se mi ugledamo!

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
Svako ima svoje idole medju stranim navijačima, ali Delije sa severa nastoje da budu originalni. Pesama stalno ima, novih, ali pitanje je kako navijači to prihvate. Ne postoji neka odredjena osoba koja ih smišlja.

Dušan Đorđević   
Zasto je isao sam na Djavolsku tribinu u Kragujevcu,pa dobio batine,kad je mogao da povede,da je hteo,jos 200 nas

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
Šavija: pravo da ti kazem, pre tekme smo se odvojili od Delija, nas gore pomenutih petoro, a sve zbog potrage za pivom (opšti smeh).
Pravo sam otisao na njihovu tribinu a vi ostali ste već ušli na stadion - i to je cela priča.

Budimir Marković   
- Zašto ova generacija Zvezdaša nema mesto u gradu (centar grada) na kojem se skupljaju navijači pre utakmice i sa njega kreću na va¸žnije mečeve (pre svega na međunarodne utakmice i derbije)?
- Zašto pored imena svih sela i grupa nema zastave sa imenom Beograd na  sebi?
- Kako je došlo do toga da grobari POKRADU većinu udarnih transparenata?
- Zašto se malo radi na organizovanju ekipa iz unutrašnjosti kada se zna da  glavna snaga Ultras-a le?i u brojnosti koju oni donose?
- Šta se događalo sa Ultras-ima tokom demonstracija '96-'97 i zašto nisu  bili aktivni u tome (ako se već deklarišu kao antikomunisti)?

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
Pre je to bila SNEŽANA, i tu se skupljala stara ekipa, čak i kad nisu bile tekme. Za koji mesec biće završen naš klub, kod samog stadiona, i biće mesto gde ce se Delije uvek okupljati. A za velike tekme zna se, kao i pre - kreće se od crkve Svetog Marka.
Radi se na zastavi sa imenom Beograda, a što se tiče grobarskih krađa o tome smo već rekli.
I oko grupa iz unutrasnjosti smo rekli - oni moraju da načine prvi korak, i posle je sve lakše. Ne možemo mi da jurimo ljude iz unutrašnjosti i terati ih da organizovano dolaze na tekme.
Delije nisu organizovano učestvovale na demonstracijama, ali je većina njih individualno bila tamo. Delije su apolitična navijačka organizacija i tako će i ostati, međutim svako od nas ima pravo na svoj stav prema nekom političkom desavanju ili stranci. Na kontra-mitingu bilo je ljudi u prvim redovima koji su "dočekivali" kontra-mitingaše, ali ne naravno sa Zvezdinim obeležjima.

Nemanja #221   
Sa koliko godina ste poceli ozbiljnije da navijate(da idete na gostovanja,da se bijete,...)?
Zasto ne dolazite na manje utakmice Pioniru?
Kada ste postali vodje Severa?

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
Tima : Sa 16 godina
Šavija : Sa 14-15 godina.
Nije tačno da se ne dolazi na manje utakmice mada se dešava da se termini utakmica poklapaju sa utamicama drugih klubova sportskog drustvaa i ne možemo sve da postignemo, ipak je Zvezda veliko SD
A što se tiče "biti vodja Severa" - taj izraz malo ko od nas upotrebljava, a i kada to uradimo onda se uvek deklaričemo kao "jedan od vodja sa Severa" jer nas ima desetak ravnopravnih.Ne može se reći tačan trenutak kada je neko postao ili prestao biti vođa

Miloš i Bane   
Prvo koji je razlog čestih tuča na severu i kako to kada kažete da ste najbolja organizovana navijačka grupa u Evropi i to se opet dogadja, Drugo zašto se ne ugledate na Italijanske tifoze i ne pravite bakljade i dimne zavese.

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
Oko tuča smo već objasnili, a Bogami i oko drugog.

Borislava Gvozden   
1.zašto kočite sa časopisom "pune tribine " poslednji broj je izašao pre godinu dana.
2.zašto ne napravite nove barjake , svi su truli, bolesni i stari i iscepani.
3.zašto ne zabranite šupčinama da kače svoje bolesne zastave na severu

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
Četvrti broj časopisa PTLN će izaći za nekih 20-tak dana. (nadamo se)
Prave se novi barjaci veći deo je gotov tako da će se moći videti u prolećnoj sezoni.
Svako može da kači svoju zastavu na severu ali je dogovor upravo postignut pre par dana - zna se koje su to zastave i koji su to transparenti koji ce stajati na vidim mestima na svakoj tekmi. Hijerarhija tu ipak postoji.
Igor   
ZASTO SE STARI TRANSPARENTI VISE NE NOSE NA SEVER,I ZAŠTO PTLN NE IZLAZI.

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
Stari transparenti se ne nose iz jednostavnog razloga što više te stare grupe ( ZULU , RED DEVILS) ne idu organizovano na utakmice . Mada se radi na tome da jedan broj starih zastava se ponovo počne kačiti na sever.
Sledeći broj PTLN ce izaći za 20-tak dana.

Čalošević Aleksandar   
Mislim da Zvezdini navijaci zaslužuju bolje vodje u smislu odnosa prema drugim navijačima tu pre svega mislim na balavce koji se penju na šipke i pozivaju na navijanje a pri tome psuju i vredjaju ostale,ne može on da tvrdi da voli više Zvezdu od mene i ostalih.Kad ce da prestanu tuče na Severu ovo se posebno odnosi na utakmice na gostovanjima?

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
Šavija: Slažem se, i moram reći da je pitanje na mestu. Pravo da ti kažem pomalo me to već nervira, jer malo ljudi zna koliku odgovornost nosi to kad si na šipci, pa se shodno tome i tako ponaša. Biće toga mnogo manje, obecavam ti.

Nenad Vidrić   
Dali ste bili na utakmicama Bajern-Zvezda i Zvezda-Bajern? Ako jeste, molio bih vas da samo ukratko opišete kako je taj susret izgledao sa tribina.

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
(Smeh) Pa naravno da smo bili :) (Šavija: Naravno, Tima je poceo da ide po svim Zvezdinim utakmicama jos početkom ovog veka :)
Tima: Trenuci koje nikad nećemo da zaboravimo, jer toliko emotivnog naboja skoro nikad nismo osetili. To je nemoguće opisati, to treba doživeti.

Nikola   
zašto organizacija navijača nije uvek kao pred zadnju utakmicu sa radom i partizanom nego smo se ranije bez veze brukali(mislim na ono kad smo krenuli da se bijemo sa radovcima skoro goloruki a oni svako po štanglu)

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
Bilo je tih ozbiljnih propusta, ali kao sto se primećuje stanje se poboljšava i tako ce i dalje biti. Posle nekoliko sastanaka sa navijačima a i sa igračima - dogovoreno je da se u sve sfere navijackog zivota krene mnogo organizovanije.

Miša #0002   
Koje navijačke grupe iz unutrašjnosti bismo mogli da istaknemo kao primerne ?

Tima i Šavija odgovaraju:   
Teško je izdvojiti, ali ponajpre Nišlije, Novosađani, Subotica i Ruma.

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